A brand new person starts at 25% . If you sell bad term policies you are right the term policies will go up increase, as you get older, unless you have a guaranteed term. . Even though that person accepted the service themselves, I as part of it. who looses their job and who actually makes money for the company? In that situation what would be the right thing to do? Remember how they let their other businesses call them, so they may not make as much but they make more on the name in a list. It sounds more and more like the people who post about Primerica on Rip-Off reports. Well all that thinking changed when I put in my resigination papers. Something sounds fishy. The inability to read and understand. I have studied the insurance business and found that the car salespeople are angels compared to you guys. Then for the next 10 to 35 years they call, send letters, and continue to harass you to convert your policy. Anyway this is what makes it great. Read the book Coach. It is 99 and covers the following, securities, life, auto and home referals and mortgage. Thanks for stopping by it is always good to listen when God has something to say I was just surprised to see that it was on the Primerica post. I appreciate your comments, but as I mentioned at the end of the post I want to keep this civil from reading michelles comments It in no way sounds like an ad for Ed Jones, and it appeared to be a simple explanation of what she saw happen. RECRUITING JUSTIFICATION: well lets see.. get the blind teaching the blind and say who am i to judge who will make it or not and yes then you can put your head on the pillow at night.. well, thats if you have no real judgement and are more motivated by what, oh ya, the dream of money and success; ah so hypicritical. 1. 1. Not everyone had to come in at the lower level. And then you had to fight for it. I studies on my own for about 2 weeks to pass the Mo Life and Health and they didnt have any problem hiring me on with absolutely no college experience related to finance. That is not what life insurance is intended for. I am sure all banks and mortgage brokers show people how to get out of debt faster. They said that to them. Look, no one person can run a succesfull business by themselves. He actually has never provided facts. Yes you say find a entry level position in a reputable company but then I have to charge people $1500-$2500 and up in order for me to help them. -, Tom likes to take quotes out of context. 6 to 12. Either way they are not good companies. How do you know my companies? Tom, you said, by the way in past posts you have said you were an agent. Tom tries to abuse the power of persuasion to manipulate his customers to purchase what he sells. I have learned a couple of things. I know it is paraphrased but then I do not give my A game to some one that is in a C League. Is it true that Primericas policies are much more straight forward and that they have a much better pay-out rate than other insurance companies. -. You did not mention Securities so you must not be investing the difference. When I did my last policy comparison, the competition was coming in a hair cheaper. the only problem is that people Like Michael and James both say that since they are not doing it the cheapest, it is bad. Now whole life is like that but that is the most expensive policy, the ones I was talkign about above are variable universal, universal , you bet your life, etc. They are not looking for someone who is looking to draw a paycheck. . I mean you are saying to buy cash value insurance. sure you may lose some money in life insurance sales. -. True its possible to start your own independent office and make more money than starting with primerica and working your way up. The national level of tourism planning is concerned with: tourism policy; infrastructure facilities and a physical structure plan which includes important tourist attractions, selected tourism development regions, international entry points, facilities, and We get out there and do things that most people wont. James @ 7:00 pm I was responding to Tom from his comments to the blog that I posted on July, 26, 2008 from James @ 9:26 pm. If you had a bad experience with your S class, and someone asks you your opinion, or it comes up in conversation, you ARE SUPPOSED to give your experience and opinion! ***How is that fair? Primerica, its representatives and the Secure Program do not represent any of the insurers in the program. Well let me go through the list of problems here. It is the term I keep seeing. This is planin wrong. If a guy goes get second job for $8 and hour he is smart. Do you think using a loophole is perfectly ok? 3. If you stick by that principle then you can never go wrong. Have they done that to you yet? They contact (hassle) everyone they know, friends, family, co workers, etc. Annual Reviews of my position. In 1980, A.L. Commissions do not affect our editors' opinions or evaluations. . Bout both of them need to see it. I had cancer in my family, does that mean I need cancer insurance. -. If money is taken from the cash value thats loss of use money. . They have done several different loans. It applies only to those who are licensed. I do understand that someoen with a limit amount of products would think that is all Primerica has, but they do train on Loans, Securities. This is something an independent may not understand but business owners do. On the plus side, when we request accounts moved over, their processing time is faster than most Then I noticed I could have given my family member more coverage for the same money with other carriers. Why do you think some hotels only get $50.00 a night and others get $500.00? And Again I throw my challenge down. This grace in our lives is due to someone not looking at the most well-to-do families but targeting the solidly middle class. Only 1 to 5% rate of return. Want a job in this industry? Did you know that most companies spend billions on marketing? Also since we are willing to work around their schedule, and come to them, would you not pay for service. The only thing I can see you bringing your clients are CHEAPER products. Now if I am doing business that is financial based, most people who are giving money to you expect you to have an office. IF a Lie gets told 1000 times it becomes a truth. Ya, right? Why would you pay for insurance you do not need. Dont be a crybaby just because it does not work for you. It would lead to calls from idiots like you trying to get me to change my plan. But as for the post here, They are here to drive a wedge between the company and agents. Talk is cheap. The problem is we have gotten used to settling, but I think that will change soon. Some people just dont like the point of paying for Term and not getting anything in return except coverage. Everyone get a cold drink and some pop corn, this ought to be good. - You said you will quit if you ever find out that you are not doing the best for the client. Since there is more than one James, I am not sure which one needs to see this more. How many hierarchy levels are in the organization? Does the agent wish to offer health insurance? As for my personal stuff, You cant, because you do not have a name nor have a face. $0 in your account for the first 1 to 7 years. Thats called the free enterprise system. And remember not everybody followed Jesus These include, communicating in a polite and respectful manner, asking meaningful questions, imparting factual information and abiding by norms and values. You get lower cost and more licenses, that is a good thing. I know this is just some blog on the internet, but on the other side there are people, honest and not so honest, that posted. If you do not sell but you recruit, do you make money, NO. Doing just debt consolidation and such wouldnt make me a whole lot of money, unless I sold immense amounts. var d=new Date();var year=d.getFullYear();document.write("©"+year+" Primerica"); If I want to add other carrier I can. Newspapers and independent advisers. I do this because I have a passion to really help people and when I get the mind set of commissions are more important that peoples futures, I then must leave the industry. Tom as always you dont understand. Probably not. They do not suggest anything that will not work out. Bill, am I woman or a man? This is a Christian blog. They mean you will never own the property but will continue to be the RENTER of it? You talk about ROP, Term, and cash valve policies. Its funny how youll criticize MetL life insurance and then go and use thier annuity product. Primerica offices are all run independently. Most brokers do this so they do not lose the clients they have. Let me explain. Mild Cognitive Impairment: Seniors suffering from minor levels of cognitive impairment may still be fine in an independent living program. More power to the concept and if you think Primerica invented a business model that massively recruits then youre sourly mistaken. But let me show you your errors. The only draw back is that you get paid less. Yes PFS wasnt for me. Second if you were doing the business the right way then you never run out of leads. Well we revert to thinking people who say anything against the Primerica concepts or business model are exclusive whole life producers again. AS So why would a company open themselves up to lawsuits, and litigation, when limiting the amount to 40% is perfectly good. But the bad thing is that since you have no loyalty to companies, your clients are fodder. It did not talk about Primerica. This is one of the reasons why they are no value term. It is a question for you to answer. Thankfully, it has gotten a lot of comments pointing out some of the pros and cons of primerica from insiders, those who left, and others who had been recruited. ANy one that tells you differently is a sales person trying to increase his pocket book at the expense of yours. Back then it was his company and he could contract with any company he wanted to to offer the best products he could find. James, would you buy car insurance for a car you traded in last year? And now since they are losing the term game, they come up with a new flavor to fleece the client. I was called out of the blue from a Jerry a PFS agent, and I really do not know how he got my number. Its all rah, rah, hype emotional stuff. If you dont have a insurance or NASD license, they do. So you have no problem with offering people Drugs. The licensed agent can still offer products, build a team if they so choose and then have a product that can be offered to the people who have licensing concerns. They can always get a HELOC in case times are tough and they cant make the payment. I am glad you can bring in everyone. You did not understand the dynamics of asking the questions in a sale. It is worth money as people say. The profits for their term goes to Cash value Companies. XRLmy question to you is this..if you are sooooo successful at what you are doing, why do you have so much time to post these long essays about how much you hate Primerica? But think about it. PFSI is a member of FINRA and SIPC. Would you give up 10 people to gain 100, 1000, 10,000? Get you certifications, licenses pay a big licensing fee with whoever you join to use their name, etc I have no interest to open an edward jones office or my own independent office. By the way, I hope that it works out for youyou deserve to win!. It almost guarantees failure. What is the cost to join Primerica and what does it include? Which is a better way to find out if this is for the person? Can you tell the difference between a good term and a bad term policy? Wall Street Journal is a good source. Really only 5% make it. It said I rather have 1 person of 100 men than 100% of one. People can do their homework. BY the way, if you want to sell your business, you ahve to find someone willing to pay for it. These are the small buyers, those that were not knowledgeable about these items. When PFS is sold I would expect a name change. If you knew as much as you project to know you would know if by chance a company did go out of business its not something so easy as the policies would just become null and void. No estate taxes were paid, and we did not ahve to worry about capital gains. Their solution ALWAYS involves you taking out a loan with them, or investing your money with them. For example, they seem to excel at helping families get rid of their debt faster and cheaper. Most importantly, care levels are dictated by the amount of help a person needs to complete activities of daily living, or ADLs. They have a good business model, and the people (at the office I visitednot sure about the others) actually have a heart to help the struggling middle-class of America. By the way how many mirrors do you have in your house? I am so glad you make money. I bet you thinkk having insurance on that car that you had when you were 20, at age 70 is a great idea. Most people do not have the right tools for it too. Now you are using Insurance talk. I guess that is the only way he can win. Im sure you understand how the cash value of a policy is used within a policy and who owns it. However, I can get tow individual policies are that STILL LESS EXPENSIVE that Primericas combined policy. And another reason is because companies that sell that way normally do not want to provide an education or service to the client. I do not know, but since most are to make some extra money, that is the best way. , Something that cost more from you, that most everyone can get cheaper else where. Everyones work benefits everyone. Which is what the loan officers did the last couple of years in the refinancing boom. Second, you are saying for people that have little to invest for their retirement, that they need to risk it in stocks and bond and a certified by the state. I was called out of the blue from a Jerry a PFS agent, and I really do not know how he got my number. I have no problem with spending $99.00 to get some very expensive licensing. Wow Michael, you didnt even TRY to rebutt any of Daves points just now. I just do not know if I would be able to do both as I am just starting as a nurse. I did learn some good things from the short adventure. Would someone enlighten me? And the shareholders made lots of money when Primerica was formed. They know what is out there and have been approached. Oh, Michael Thomasdude. Something else I wonder about. You mean getting all the licenses? You have a yearly expense of office space, postage, overnight delivery, insurance for office, insurance for E and O, and lawyers if you get sued. LOL.. ______________________________. With that being said even on a part-time basis a person can make some great income. Two, you suggest cash value, when it is not good for 98% of the people out there. At one time was a Primerica agent. You have to be full time to become RVP . And as a client I want someone to watch the store, to be full-time. We came to primerica to build a Business at the same time. The only thing that made me think about it twice, is maybe I Know I can get tax except on many things that I would do with Primerica, like travel expense, entertaiment, food, lodging, etc. ___________________________________________________, Tom says: You are right women live longer. Call me for a sale. -, He keeps repeating quality, as though PFS life is better than cheapers. I guess this is Bills ways of selling. The only bad thing was he did not take any advise but this is a free country and if someone does not want supplemental insurance it is their decision. If you fail to remember Travelers had cash Value products also. You are right, you do not need to insure me. Other types of MSN degrees focus on preparing nurses for non-clinical roles such as public health or nursing informatics. Would Jesus even be associated with a company that did the wrong thing for people they are to serve?. It may be a financial situation or an economic situation. Have you ever asked why? All the money books and magazines say this. Your job issues DI??? Primerica Life or the agent will be entitled to recover reasonable attorneys fees and other expenses incurred in the proceeding. Just as the PFS agents are talking about replacement of Cash value products, the same thing can be said for their Term product. I have seen the letters that other customers had, (Primerica gets many things from their clients.) It left a bad taste in the clients mouth. -. Where is this coming from? If someone twists the facts I bet your sates DOI would love to here from them. I was under the impression that you get a percentage of your hires sales is that not correct? Since you have not named your company I am not sure, but since I still have the paper work from my last meeting I attended in California here is what you get for the $99: ya you have a few people with reputable backgrounds but there is a reason they didnt make it in thier industry either.. and to say all those people that make it are evil well is just irresponsible and makes you look so amature. Primerica does annuities. Michael you just ignore it. Please help. As we know death is a guaranteed event and Term pays out about 3% of the time. If your client does you will lose him on the first drop of price. at PFS. You get better training, and more support. How many 80 years olds do you know that are working. Back it up. Maybe you might want to proof read your post. Micheal saying it is 199 not 99 and does not cover the extra licenses. If I remember right, He is a Professional. Selling them policies they knew where bad, but laughing all the way to the bank. Are you in sales? No one does anything for free. If you were given the opp to check out PFS, give it a fair overview and dont be swayed in the wind just cuz a pile of people of people are saying its a scam. So its not as easy as they make it seem in an opportunity meeting. Present the solution. It sounds more and more like Tom is a chick. Did you know that the red underline means their is a problem. These are the friends with whom you share an emotional connection at a specific time in your life, says Shaw. Of course the rates are all speculation until fully underwritten, but its still valid information. If its age 60 or 65, is the PFS policy guaranteed for the full 20 years? Tom sems to think that Primerica agents have the clients best interest in mind when they offr a solution. -. That you have no training in Securities. Just to beat the chest and say Primerica is the best just will not cut it. All in all, I love Primerica and its opportunity. They add products when it is good for the client and for the company. Im not going to go into all of your points, but I do agree with some of your last paragraph, about America falling into debt and that being bad for our future, but I would like to hear how Primerica is the ONLY solution. It took a different turn than what it should have. And that is a month. You are proving the statement: Let me tell yourun from Primerica, I invest 1200.00 a year with them and I lose 200.00 of that money every year for the past 3 years. News Flash There is a market for every product created. So please if they recruit young kids great. Why woudl you want to work for a company that plays favorites. Tom says: Again you are assuming that the client pays til the end. To your family, yourself, your friends, or to your upline and company? They feel all excited b/c they are this business owner or soon to be business owner lol. *****Perfect example a former co-worker of mine who wrecked his motor cycle coming in to work . Here is the question of the day, and it is something you still have not answer. Uses third party, un-biased sources, to prove their points. Hes doing what he wants to doi dont care whyregardless, its HIS CHOICE. 1. They said since you bought from XYZ company, they could contact you since they are a sister/brother/Parent company of that company. And if you die in between your family gets all the money, insurance and investments. But you are an Insurance salesperson, not a financial coach. They are looking for people wanting to win. You are placing a deposit down to start your business. Does the agent wish to offer med sups? You see, I really tell on myself, because I do not have to be afraid of any lawyers since I am not breaking any contractual agreements. Now, Im border line ranting ,so Ill wrap this up. i did not like the entire presentation for primerica, but not everyone feels the same about it. Its called LOYALTY. Anybody have any knowledge of the Utah seizure? This time you run the numbers and you tell me who is cheaper. Now if one company is table rating a client I may be able to shop it for them and see if another company is more competitive. Then theres compensation and then theres marketing. 5 to 10. Primerica does not just compete with Cash value but with the No-Value term you sell. IS that a good deal. Either in a lesser product or they are planning to make money somewhere else. That isnt half of you on this page. Or do you think an extra $1000 a month is something to sneeze at? Something went wrong. So the truth is that BUSINESS if difficult and many cannot and will not succeed, if they will not endure for as long as it takes. liek. First most of their people are not Stupid 18 year olds but fathers and mothers looking for a better way. But who owns them. They sell to sell another product to the same client. This is what the PFSers never want to talk about. Now James, I know this may be hard to understand but if you spent a little more time investigating you would know this. For example, in his last post he said, Well You need E and O insurance. I am so glad you do this so people will see how you are truly. They can contract with another organization. Yes it may cost a little more, but then value does. The middle class in North America is dying under debt, waist full whole life insurance and poor/no savings for retirement. Remember they are sales people and sales people get paid on commission, mostly. Its going to be a busy weather week in Massachusetts. Most likely not. Well I posted that he was wrong with the Cost to get in and what it covers. Since you keep bringing up product, Why are you saying it is now about Opportunity. Now you may have only been there a little while, and never saw anyone that has gotten in trouble but I have seen several agents get reprimands for playing a battle of words. According to FTC regulations a multi level marketing company is required to register as such. Either one of two places, the company, or the client. Yes I had to do whats right. Following termination of this Agreement, this provision will be limited to prohibiting your soliciting, directly or indirectly, Primerica Life insurance purchasers only when all four of the following additional criteria are met: Primerica targets middle-income families and specializes in providing term life insurance. Again you make this sound like it is so different. Based in the Atlanta metro area, Primerica was founded in 1977 with the philosophy of buy term and invest the difference. The company started with a team of seven founders and 85 sales representatives, operating under the original name of A.L. As always its about the needs of the client and offering a solution. I would love to see how Citi said it in its papers. -. Not on your companies record. It is so nice you are concerned about being sold. Except for Primerica. . What is your cut if they decide to go with Cash value? If he is making that amount (900K) from personal production I would hate to see what he can do on the outside. I AM NOT AN AGENT. and secretly i know each and every one of you has a pfs life policy u know u do too who did u compare it withuhh thats right.. no one.. u bought in to it all ;p, So what you are saying is price is the only thing that matters. It can be. I commend you for your seeking of knowledge. You see I use to think the same way. No it did not. Too bad it is selling products that are not good for the client. -. As for Disability insurance: Great, and to get it outside the job is not only foolish but costs you more. Again, ALL ARE GUARANTEED rates. Either that you chose to ignore the answer and claim I did not answer it, Which one is it Michael? Even the term companies are owned by cash value companies. (This is conservative since they have started paying for the Securities Licensed.). Not everyone is as enlightened as you are, and most people need help. What happens when you have a recruit at your same commission level you 2 are at the same level you get no override . I bet not. The use of spell check and instead of using the philosophy buy term and invest the difference maybe try buy term and invest the difference only when it makes sense. They have the least worth for any good information. That seems fair. Most policies save money on fees if you link them. I had to send her to Zurich at the time. AIG has LEVEL, GUARANTEED Term for the following lengths: WebThe matrix has a three-level structure that correlates with the Junior-Middle-Senior role distribution. Buill do I need to explain that again? This is not good for the client only good for the Company. Do you buy car insurance to want to use it? Primerica is for mainstreet families, to help them have a better life and no other company cares about the client like they do. I am curious, do you not think that Mutual funds are non-managed? ***Tom in many instances the issue isnt about saving. Primerica does not pay people for helping families. Run the quote a female age 41 with a policy of 500K in DB standard health in the state of Nevada with a 20 year term has a price of 56.44 a month with Western. If an PFS agent is really at PFS to help people i strongly suggest you dont read message boards, because sooner or later your going to hear things and see things at trainings and you wont be able to look in the mirror. Since Primerica does not service the rich, they do not need to worry about this. WebTheories, on the other hand, are broad explanations for a wide range of phenomena. Thats worth more than the money that you make from it to me. People that leave Primerica may get a contract that looks higher, but they are still not getting a Business Opportunity that they can offer the same to others which ultimately gives us the higher contract. Now I know you think that training is not needed but if you are going to know how to counter someone statement on price, You need training. By the way did not Jesus say not to judge people? *****Now let us talk about Whole life. When you die you do not get it. It seems he thinks that it is ok to lie here. I will try to answer your questions as best I can as a Primerica Rep. Primerica is a subsidiary of Citigroup. ! So please do not say that since this is a Christian blog I could not lie. Since I do not need to troll for customers, I do not have to lower myself to your level. Remember the rule of 72? I am just telling them about Primerica when I get the chance and I have asked if they would let me train on them. Have you heard of the Do Not Call List? All he has is his word. I seriously like the way everything is set up with primerica. Ill start with Cell phone companies (cingular and sprinti know for a fact they run this way.) I stayed in the same office that Ive been in since 2000. His only failing is that his philosophy was flawed. It goes to the home office visits for the winners. Second, If the person cant get it from Primerica, why in the world do you think another company can help them? A couple of things, briefly. If you do leave and stay in the industry. Im an RVP with Primerica. Stay aways from the clients you went out and got for us for a time of 2 years and send us back all brochures and and other documents oh yes thans for the recruits. 90 are dependent or still working. But then again you might not have done this, but the insurance companies that you represent have done it. This was created by the Insurance company to take more money from the client and place it in the coffers of the company. Do you know the difference between a good term policy and a bad one? I know many people work out of their home, and a home based business is great. Do you buy your meat at the supermarket? Therefore will harass you until you switch from Term to Cash value. Do you know why RVPs never waste their time here. But your policies lack value. So call me a Whole lifer if you must. 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